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True EMO vs. The Hot Topic-Sell Out EMO
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I found this on one of the many sites I occasionally flip through. Unfortunetly my explorer froze and shut down on me so I can't share the link with you. But I will share the artical:
Rather than directly discussing the following topics, I am going to make true statements and/or use quotes, then allow you to come up with your own conclusions and/or hate mail.
Emos/punks/goths vs preps.
Hot Topic.
Emotive Hardcore and Screamo.
Alternative and Post-Hardcore.
So many people being "emo."
"Despite your pseudo-bohemian appearance,
And vaguely leftist doctrine of beliefs,
You know nothing about art or sex,
That you couldn’t read in any trendy New York underground fashion magazine.
Prototypical non-conformist:
You are a vacuous soldier of the thrift store Gestapo.
You adhere to a set of standards and tastes,
That appear to be determined by an unseen panel of hipster judges,
Giving a thumbs up or thumbs down to incoming and outgoing trends and styles of music and art.
...
You spend your time sitting in circles with your friends,
Pontificating to each other.
Forever competing for that one moment of self-aggrandizing glory,
In which you hog the intellectual spotlight,
Holding dominion over the entire shallow pointless conversation.
When you walk by a group of quote-unquote "normal" people,
You chuckle to yourself patting yourself on the back as you scoff.
It's the same superiority complex
Shared by the high school jocks who made your life a living hell!
And makes you a slave to the competitive capitalist dogma,
You spend every moment of your waking life bitching about!"
~ ADMIT IT! by Say Anything
"Hot Topic uses contrived identification with youth sub-cultures,
to manufacture an anti-authoritarian identity and make millions.
That $8 you paid for the Mudvayne poster,
would be better spent used for seeing your brother's friend's band.
DIY ethics are punk rock!
Starting your own label is punk rock!
GG Allin was punk rock!
But when a crass corporate vulture feeds on mass consumer culture,
then spending Mommy's money is not punk rock!"
~ Hot Topic Is Not Punk Rock by MC Lars
Feel free to replace all "punk rock" with "emo" or "goth"
Also, you may choose to replace "GG Allin" with "Fugazi" or "Bauhaus"
The term "Emo" is short for Emotive Hardcore. A sub-genre that came out of the early 1980's Hardcore Punk scene in Washington D.C.
2nd Wave Emo split in the early 1990's. One branch taking a slower more indie sound, this evolved into the Emo of today.
The other branch, kept it's fast beats and turned the yelling of the punk into screaming. This is known as screamo.
3rd Wave Emo is so far underground, and the term raped by popular culture that it might as well be a dead genre. I seriously doubt that anyone who thinks they are emo and/or thinks they listen to emo, do not know a single thing about it, or listen to a single real emo band.
Rites of Spring is emo.
Embrace is emo.
Fugazi is wave emo/screamo.
Sunny Day Real Estate is 2nd wave emo.
City of Caterpillar is 2nd wave screamo.
Spy Vs. Spy is 3rd wave emo.
Circle Takes The Square is 3rd wave screamo.
I could list dozens more in each category, but I doubt anyone would care. If you do want to know more, feel free to ask.
The confusion between emo and alternative and between screamo and post-hardcore can be traced back to the band Jimmy Eat World.
When JEW first formed in the early 1990's, they were emo. Since then, they have greatly changed their musical style, audience, and genre.
As JEW began to get main-stream attention about 7 years ago, a whole lot of idiots assumed "Well! They used to be emo, so that must mean they still are!"
Which led to the next assumption of "Well, if this is emo, everything that sounds like it must be emo too!"
Both of the above statements are, of course, wrong.
This confusion only spread as more bands who sounded similar to JEW started to pop up. Now we have the horrible misappropriation of the entire emo genre, and it is only getting worse with small tweeny-boppers running around claiming to be emo.
Post-Hardcore, on the other hand, is not nearly as bastardized as what most kids think is emo.
Post-Hardcore is greatly influenced by the Hardcore of the 1980s, and even more so by the screamo of the 1990's.
You can almost hear the screamo in some bands.
30 Seconds To Mars is alternative.
AFI is alternative.
Coheed And Cambria is alternative.
Evanescence is alternative.
Hawthorne Heights is alternative.
H.I.M. is alternative.
My Chemical Romance is alternative.
Senses Fail is alternative.
All Time Low is pop-rock.
Boys Like Girls is pop-rock.
Fall Out Boy is pop-rock.
Good Charlotte is pop-rock.
Green Day is pop-rock.
Jonas Brothers is pop-rock.
Panic! At The Disco is pop-rock.
Paramore is pop-rock.
Red Jumpsuit Apparatus is pop-rock.
Simple Plan is pop-rock.
Tokio Hotel is pop-rock.
Almost everything on Fueled By Ramen/Decaydance is pop-rock.
Aiden is post-hardcore.
Atreu is post-hardcore.
Chiodos is post-hardcore.
Escape the Fate is post-hardcore.
From First To Last is post-hardcore.
Silverstein is post-hardcore.
Thursday is post-hardcore.
Underoath is post-hardcore.
The Used is post-hardcore.
I could go on, but it gets redundant after a while, seeing as many of these bands sound the exact same.
There are so many tweens who claim to be emo (or punk or gothic) and do not know a single thing about where it came from.
I know more about punk than I do about emo, and obviously know a whole hell about emo. Goth on the other hand, I just know the beginnings, which is a whole lot more than I can say for all the tweens running around claiming to be gothic (to be fair, I only like early gothic music, nothing modern is worth wasting my time on.)
By this entry, I hope to educate some people, even though I doubt anyone who needs to read it actually will.
So there it is. My shared music history lesson.
Rather than directly discussing the following topics, I am going to make true statements and/or use quotes, then allow you to come up with your own conclusions and/or hate mail.
Emos/punks/goths vs preps.
Hot Topic.
Emotive Hardcore and Screamo.
Alternative and Post-Hardcore.
So many people being "emo."
"Despite your pseudo-bohemian appearance,
And vaguely leftist doctrine of beliefs,
You know nothing about art or sex,
That you couldn’t read in any trendy New York underground fashion magazine.
Prototypical non-conformist:
You are a vacuous soldier of the thrift store Gestapo.
You adhere to a set of standards and tastes,
That appear to be determined by an unseen panel of hipster judges,
Giving a thumbs up or thumbs down to incoming and outgoing trends and styles of music and art.
...
You spend your time sitting in circles with your friends,
Pontificating to each other.
Forever competing for that one moment of self-aggrandizing glory,
In which you hog the intellectual spotlight,
Holding dominion over the entire shallow pointless conversation.
When you walk by a group of quote-unquote "normal" people,
You chuckle to yourself patting yourself on the back as you scoff.
It's the same superiority complex
Shared by the high school jocks who made your life a living hell!
And makes you a slave to the competitive capitalist dogma,
You spend every moment of your waking life bitching about!"
~ ADMIT IT! by Say Anything
"Hot Topic uses contrived identification with youth sub-cultures,
to manufacture an anti-authoritarian identity and make millions.
That $8 you paid for the Mudvayne poster,
would be better spent used for seeing your brother's friend's band.
DIY ethics are punk rock!
Starting your own label is punk rock!
GG Allin was punk rock!
But when a crass corporate vulture feeds on mass consumer culture,
then spending Mommy's money is not punk rock!"
~ Hot Topic Is Not Punk Rock by MC Lars
Feel free to replace all "punk rock" with "emo" or "goth"
Also, you may choose to replace "GG Allin" with "Fugazi" or "Bauhaus"
The term "Emo" is short for Emotive Hardcore. A sub-genre that came out of the early 1980's Hardcore Punk scene in Washington D.C.
2nd Wave Emo split in the early 1990's. One branch taking a slower more indie sound, this evolved into the Emo of today.
The other branch, kept it's fast beats and turned the yelling of the punk into screaming. This is known as screamo.
3rd Wave Emo is so far underground, and the term raped by popular culture that it might as well be a dead genre. I seriously doubt that anyone who thinks they are emo and/or thinks they listen to emo, do not know a single thing about it, or listen to a single real emo band.
Rites of Spring is emo.
Embrace is emo.
Fugazi is wave emo/screamo.
Sunny Day Real Estate is 2nd wave emo.
City of Caterpillar is 2nd wave screamo.
Spy Vs. Spy is 3rd wave emo.
Circle Takes The Square is 3rd wave screamo.
I could list dozens more in each category, but I doubt anyone would care. If you do want to know more, feel free to ask.
The confusion between emo and alternative and between screamo and post-hardcore can be traced back to the band Jimmy Eat World.
When JEW first formed in the early 1990's, they were emo. Since then, they have greatly changed their musical style, audience, and genre.
As JEW began to get main-stream attention about 7 years ago, a whole lot of idiots assumed "Well! They used to be emo, so that must mean they still are!"
Which led to the next assumption of "Well, if this is emo, everything that sounds like it must be emo too!"
Both of the above statements are, of course, wrong.
This confusion only spread as more bands who sounded similar to JEW started to pop up. Now we have the horrible misappropriation of the entire emo genre, and it is only getting worse with small tweeny-boppers running around claiming to be emo.
Post-Hardcore, on the other hand, is not nearly as bastardized as what most kids think is emo.
Post-Hardcore is greatly influenced by the Hardcore of the 1980s, and even more so by the screamo of the 1990's.
You can almost hear the screamo in some bands.
30 Seconds To Mars is alternative.
AFI is alternative.
Coheed And Cambria is alternative.
Evanescence is alternative.
Hawthorne Heights is alternative.
H.I.M. is alternative.
My Chemical Romance is alternative.
Senses Fail is alternative.
All Time Low is pop-rock.
Boys Like Girls is pop-rock.
Fall Out Boy is pop-rock.
Good Charlotte is pop-rock.
Green Day is pop-rock.
Jonas Brothers is pop-rock.
Panic! At The Disco is pop-rock.
Paramore is pop-rock.
Red Jumpsuit Apparatus is pop-rock.
Simple Plan is pop-rock.
Tokio Hotel is pop-rock.
Almost everything on Fueled By Ramen/Decaydance is pop-rock.
Aiden is post-hardcore.
Atreu is post-hardcore.
Chiodos is post-hardcore.
Escape the Fate is post-hardcore.
From First To Last is post-hardcore.
Silverstein is post-hardcore.
Thursday is post-hardcore.
Underoath is post-hardcore.
The Used is post-hardcore.
I could go on, but it gets redundant after a while, seeing as many of these bands sound the exact same.
There are so many tweens who claim to be emo (or punk or gothic) and do not know a single thing about where it came from.
I know more about punk than I do about emo, and obviously know a whole hell about emo. Goth on the other hand, I just know the beginnings, which is a whole lot more than I can say for all the tweens running around claiming to be gothic (to be fair, I only like early gothic music, nothing modern is worth wasting my time on.)
By this entry, I hope to educate some people, even though I doubt anyone who needs to read it actually will.
So there it is. My shared music history lesson.
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